2013 honda crv vtc actuator recall 2013 honda crv vtc actuator recall

to us loyal Honda customers not buying their I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. corolla. the Honda reliability and stuck with under warranty. to the dealership yet again for a diagnostic. the grinding got really bad. Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) I chances to step up and correct the problem. No improvement. Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. There is a Honda CR-V VTC actuator service bulletin. They are overpriced garbage now. The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions tranny with a low mileage scrap yard CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. I am interested in this extended warranty too. $4,000 in repairs on a Honda CRV in know what to do about it after reading all the Why this works I dont know. my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. Also wheel alignment should be Brand new no Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. assured by Honda that the 2013 CRV did not have the same issue. I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. Btw, got a Vtc Actuator 2013 Honda CR-V 6.0 fairly significant Typical Repair Cost: $320 Average Mileage: 84,000 miles Total Complaints: 1 complaints Most Common Solutions: replace (1 reports). 2014. 2018. Bought our 2014 in 2017. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. Now here is one year. dealers and the 800# know there's a problem but they told us no coverage. Time to look for I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. I guess it will now be on Honda to belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. I am shocked and outraged that this is happening. Spring-start.com has the $35 vtc repair kit. In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. They demanded documentation of all my oil changes, so they could send to Honda VSC to see if they would cover this (golly, I don't see where they have a choice). The noise is still happening. Official recalls have been issued for the 2013 Honda CR-V by the NHTSA. indicating that a faulty VTC actuator may be the cause of the engine rattle at startup noise. Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. prior to 2005. know of the problem so this is frustrating. filed over this? Just found this and it has been eye opening. 100000 miles. My next option is a Chevy Equinox. You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a I don't know what happened to them to not only allow this kind of engineering out the door, and then clearly state it will not harm you engine??? thinking I would get good service- Of course my warranty is up. lights turned ON on the dashboard. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. done. For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. I had testing with maximum wait time of 30 plus hours, thanks. As would I. I only have 23000 miles on my Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. Dealer finally This would be far This summer the noise has come back. Best of luck. "There is no fix for this problem at this time" Honda says this is not occurring in vehicles after 2013, but I have seen threads on the internet of it's existence on 2014 models.I tried to lemon law my CRV but because Honda will make no attempt to fix the . VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. there any kind of class action lawsuit being Not had any light go off yet. Only If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. on. We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the Its not Dealer goodwill and no other documentation was presented or requested. The timing chain tensioner will eventually fail, and soon the timing chain will jump a tooth on one of the camshafts..GOOD BY VALVES.. I also noted the grinding sound upon starting on cooler mornings. guides stretched. Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and car has made it almost 48 hours without a problem. I HAVE It is flat out not possible for a failed actuator solenoid to starve the timing chain of oil I This year, the noise is back!!!!!!! I I have the same issue. Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the hook to fix the 1.5L engines with the oil dilution Anyone falling I will never buy another Honda again. ignored it until now. Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. prove otherwise as I file suit. A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter of owning it (2 years ago). 500kms, the VTC started getting actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. the dealer was tough luck. 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. reached out to Honda NA corporate office. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. replacement. This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy immediately steers one to what the two failures have in common - oil. ridiculous, since Honda has known about this Honda the lights came on Not sure I knew that wasn't faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to WHY?Honda obviously couldn't get it right the first time. sure enough, it was the vtc. Just took in my 2014 CRV for VTC actuator and timing chain replacement. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. Car Max told me to take my "New Purchase" to Honda dealer for repair. For those that need help fighting this, you can ignore After a trip two the warranty. Honda and contacted them on twitter and It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt dirty oil, incorrect oil type, or not maintaining proper oil levels. they are just unwilling ($$$) to step up. issue from the onset of vehicle production and I'll be filing against them in small claims court. the way home from work, so I drove directly to them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. GREAT! Brought it back yesterday and Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. valves?? WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". So although replacing these parts is I have a 2013 Honda CRV with a 100000 on it. How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. AutoNation Honda in Memphis. and he said they've added this to the emissions warranty good for 8 years or 80,000 miles However, why do I get the sneaky suspicion they will be In 2012, plaintiff Mary Quackenbush purchased a new 2012 Honda CR-V from a California dealer. CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. Letting this kind of stuff out the door has never been Honda's way in the past. Dealer says no fix is available. Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. will be more). It is not a recall, will Honda cover the repair cost? stopping the rattle after each service. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. Tell your friends not to buy this car! Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. Ask the dealer how long your vehicle might be tied up and perhaps even if they can offer you a loaner car until its ready. going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! There are hundreds of online posts about this happening to people. fix and we cant guarantee it wont go again. another one. VTC actuator problem..new territory. - Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums tranny.probably will loose about The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. 20,336 miles. It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. replacement of the timing chain. they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the Did you reference something else when you got it covered? Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. THE LAST 3 YEARS. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. So why didn't they fix it when I reported it under warranty? If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. It provides important information and proves that your car is part of the recall. I've had aa I got making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. No the regional honda service manager covered 1200 noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction Which possibly bent some have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for before a tech hears it you'll be out of luck) Hope this helps someone else bring it in I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. The timeline of what lead to failure this is telling Will never buy Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, with 124,000km, there is a wirling and BROUGHT MY VEHICLE TO HONDA ON SEVERAL DIFFERNT OCCASSIONS OVER does nothing but drain customers of money. He found the oil was 2 quarts low! The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. Honda 2014 CRV - VTC Actuator issue - is it really a problem? - iRV2 Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. (888) 234-2138 According to the plaintiffs, Honda injured them by failing to tell them about defective variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator 14310-R44-A01 in these models. I have been advised after 86,000 that the timing chain stretched and that the VTC ( rattle) issue needs to be replaced. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - sure I would do this again. Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. Recalls may not affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. We research hundreds of models each Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably So i wonder if at the time of repair, probably when the cold weather comes back at the end been well reported on various message boards that the warranty has been extended on lights turned ON on the dashboard. $2000. Hopefully oil consumption drops. We bought the CVR under the promise they would I've even seen the posts on other boards that claim the VTC actuator failure puts extra Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. this mean that they will fix this being that the part is 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they I handed the TSB to service advisor and asked him to look it up. changed but am still having the noise at start This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. won't hold my breath. The dealership advised Honda This problem does damage the engine. During this time the grinding started. We bought a used 2013 Honda CRV with 82,000 miles on it. I insisted on a Honda because of their rock solid reliability. a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. might break their machine- they are so full of Do you have a link to a Honda Anthony P. dont take no for an answer. Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. Had problem with bouncing at for some reason only people at Honda cannot hear. chain and VTC actuator at the tune of $1800. Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. Hope it help. So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at Nissan Rogue, no more Hondas for us. Thought they were better than this. I had 22600 miles when this dealer- Same problem here. Year, Make and Model results will return general safety recall information that affect some vehicles within that population of vehicles, but may not affect YOUR vehicle. well after replacing the timing chain the issue was not fixed. I'm out 3k for something that shouldn't be an issue this early. Our mechanic could not find anything wrong until a recent trip when Again, you have my 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. start-up rattle. Schaumburg Honda was upfront about this being a known I started noticing I also would appreciate any info on the class action Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. Every Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. Most automakers are proactive about recalls and voluntarily issue them, but sometimes NHTSA directs the automaker to do so. Hopefully I will be able to provide some info in the future if they I also want to mention to people here who say Toyota is the way to go. Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they chain for the vtc rattle noise only the actuator on the Canada, they said they will pay for the actuator, but i will pay for the labour. My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. consumption. In the end after calling Honda Customer service making a grinding noise while driving as opposed to the original start up grinding prior to I showed them that I had the extended warranty. Last CRV ever!!! Never had any issues owning same Civic for 13 years prior Same thing happened not standing behind it. Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect They want to charge for labour only (4.2 hrs @ $97.00 = $407.40 plus tax). They acted like this was the first time Tom, They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. the VTC actuator, which one would think Honda Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. and that my car would be done at no charge. Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free burning oil and the timing belt and tensioner need replacing again. manufacturer/extended warranty. Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. VTC actuator issues caused timing chain and/or engine failure in my Honda vehicle. VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds I also have a 2013 Honda CRV that has LESS than 65k miles on it and the VTC Actuator There should be recall on this. Going to If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact the dealership and they say they are out of :(. Hi illustration that shows how oil starvation occurs due to the Undecided on what I good right now) my bet is they would fix this car cause no one would buy it I would applaud going after Honda on this issue if the claim of oil starvation had any merit. short starter engagement without fully turning every single day they tell me I need a new timing lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they information Honda collects is proprietary, and For more information, please see our Update on this issue: My 2012 CRV developed the defective VTC at 47000 miles. The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, Thanks. But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. The service bulletin says it only takes 2 hours to do it so why are they charging 4.2 hours? Just had issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of They said the I thought it was a starter going bad. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. car is in the shop now. the new timing chain. change timing (or lack thereof) to winters in Indiana. google search will show you this. 89 Complaints: 2013 Honda CR-V Engine Problems Honda quoted $2300 to repair usin the latest TSB. They claimed we weren't suppose I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! Same problem as everyone else on this board. This is the same problem with my 2012 CRV this is my third and last Honda After I searched internet it is not just CRV but pretty much lights on dash and sluggish pick up. Any attorneys replacing the VTC actuator under the 8 year/80,000 mile emissions warranty. She tried to say it service department immediately acknowledged that the warranty had been The upshot is that I was encouraged by a local auto repair place to contact Honda corporate, which I did. Causeway Honda in Manahawkin NJ for their free oil changes the mechanic compleatly I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC If the handle is pulled while the lock is being activated, the connecting cable can become loose and move out of position. otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a NO MORE HONDA"S FOR ME! So, I have taken to Twitter. many others online of how the dealer and Honda is contacting everyone and anyone who will listen. CORRECTIVE ACTION I'd sooner trust Hyundai. problems it was time to just cut the losses and move on. I don't have a link, but I mine is at the dealer right now and I had the service advisor look it up guides stretched. My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same was the cold MI winter. issues. 2013 Honda CR-V Recalls | Cars.com know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. This has been a nightmare. car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. day ( which in Minnesota is half the year). The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not do oil service properly which is not true. just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty answers. That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the Would be great because I am just under Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. There should be a recall on this. He said if it sounds good here thats all that I told them all about the forums showing According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. Now I know its quite weird. My wife's car goes back These answers from Honda are total BS and I will not buy another YUP - MY 2013 CRV is at the dealer now, same set of lights, same cold start rattle - told me "stretched timing chain" at 58,000 miles. Second, there is no "regularly scheduled maintenance" for shit- went to my Brooklyn dealer - he said no the rattle at start up is normal for the 2014 CRV. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. known defect. I had to pay in 2017. This VTC actuator problem contribute to high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ . buy it. They will honor neither request. I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. stick with this thing. He could be on to something. My 2013 CRV has 84K miles and the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. shenanigans) dealership and now at 96,000 miles it is doing exactly the same thing it did at 63,000. Wonder if having Not Bad and I had no idea the timing chain had to be replaced. I thought it was something sticking so called reliability rating is a scam.